So this is the Kat Von D eyeliner that I have been currently obsessing over. I use it on my lid whenever I'm doing my wing liner and it is absolutely the most darkest eyeliner that I've ever come across. It is very pigmented. The color that I'm using, it's called Trooper. Trooper is the blackest black and it is absolutely amazing. The tip is very very sharp. You can do the skinniest wing as you can see I've made a very, very sharp wing. I can make my wing even skinnier if I wanted to using this and I love it because it does not get dried out. I've had this one for a minute and it has been it has been lasting, It has been holding up pretty well and every time I use it, it's not a struggle to get the pigment to be dark. It is always dark as soon as I start drawing my wing and that is absolutely amazing because markers usually get dull very, very fast. So, if you're looking for a really, really good wing liner or liquid liner not for your waterline, you need to go out and purchase this item right here. Yes I really, really recommend it. So, if you are looking to buy, it is around 20 bucks. I got mine from Sephora and yes it is definitely worth the money. So yes, definitely check that out.